I was introduced to Pat's by a friend and found it was great because: no one ever talked down to me because I was female - I always got a careful explanation and more explanation if I didn't understand the first time; Pat's is determinedly green which I appreciate very much; Augie and Pat are both very nice guys; AND they do very good work on my car and send me elsewhere if they can't do it there. Now that I've been to the new Pat's location, I find it very easy to get there; it's not as out the way as I thought at first. And! Ladies, you will like it a lot; Gentlemen, they really know cars (and motorcycles).